Gender: Male Location: United States. Fate can do those kinds of things (though I could swear he has), but I do think that if you were to start a "Dr. But these have never been powers of the Helm at all. Battle 9. His everlasting goal is the utter domination and enslavement of all life in creation, when all is ordered according to his will. Round 3: New52, in-character. Defeating a never before heard from demon ( and never heard again) defeating Lady Blaze, and bringing a soul back from the afterlife ( which by all accounts almost killed him, and Inza Fate accomplished the same with Consummate ease). There was a perfect example of this in one of Felix Faust early appearances. My whole point in the Spectre thing was in countering an argument given that Nabu fared well against the Spectre so Fate should win against DS. The comment about Spectre being unable to kill Darkseid came at the end of your original post, right after you said, "For me Fate would give him a hell of a fight but he can't win." Everything else about Kent V is simply alluded to in terms of power. It says nothing at all about her being at half power only that she is the other half of Fate. @DcMarvelUnity: Helm of Nabu is supposed to be superbad. Based on supposed power sets, Dr Fate. BTW, king saturn, that's the best AV ever. cmon man, you know fate wasn't winning this six months ago, why you bump it now? Superhero battle match: Darkseid (New 52) versus Doctor Fate. The 1st. Living Tribunal Vs Spectre. Basically, based purely on what it is supposedly capable of, he is like superman with Dr Strange powers and some martian manhunter skills as well. Actually Fate's feats across all version are quite consistent. Darkseid on the other hand has access to his full level of power from the outset of every encounter. For the next few pages he was being trounced by parrademons and then DS again. Darkseid & Thanos @Bane333 LMFAO, Thanos cucked the in-betweener, Tanked a blast that could kill the entire NEXUS OF ALL REALITIES, escaped the god quarry and ABSORB it's power, the god Quarry created INFINITE infinity stones, each being it's own concept, Thanos tanked blasts that killed off all of marvel including ETERNITY and INFINITY, outsmarted GALACTUS moving galactus to his fate It's also stated he had had it for weeks when Nelson reveals that his illness is actually a side-effect of his accelerated aging, and that Erik is actually dying from it. Rounds end in death or incapacitation, No BFR. Email to friends Share on Facebook - opens in a new window or tab Share on Twitter - opens in a new window or tab Share on Pinterest - opens in a new window or tab Share on Facebook - opens in a new window or tab Share on Twitter - opens in a new window or tab Share on Pinterest - opens in a new window or tab Darkseid I Believe That Doctor Fate Could Pull Off Some Pretty Insane Stuff With His Magic, But Personally I Think Darkseid's Omega Beams And Super Strength Would Eventually Overwhelm Fate. I don't know how many appearances she had as Fate in those two years though (it doesn't seem to be many, since it looks like there was a bit of a publication gap between the miniseries she became Fate, and the series where they fought Desaad). Battle 8. Darkseid & Thanos @Bane333 LMFAO, Thanos cucked the in-betweener, Tanked a blast that could kill the entire NEXUS OF ALL REALITIES, escaped the god quarry and ABSORB it's power, the god Quarry created INFINITE infinity stones, each being it's own concept, Thanos tanked blasts that killed off all of marvel including ETERNITY and INFINITY, outsmarted GALACTUS moving galactus to his fate Estacado. There is also a difference is power. He is the God of Apokolips and father of his deceased son Kalibak. Captain America Vs Nightwing. Linda hits Darkseid and knocks him over. Darkseid is a DLC villain in Injustice 2 and the overarching antagonist of the game. In fact as she was fueled by her love for Erik she probably had more. He could even work vast magic in the valley of power (Nabu's tomb) just as he could in his Salem Tower, without the Helm. Dr Strange vs Dr Fate- Dr Strange but it would be close fight. He was voiced by Michael-Leon Wooley, who voiced the same character in Batman: The Brave and the Bold and Audrey II of the 2003 Broadway revival of Little Shop of Horrors. Did not always seem to play out that way in practice though. But you know, both are key characters especially Darkseid as a villian so obviously they won't kill him off. 1.The Helm itself is not "superbad" it merely allows the wearer to draw power from the Lords of Order. So even Spectre has concerns where DS is concerned. Like Batman said, if you need Darkseid taken care of use this phone number and call in Dr.Fate. Darkseid is powerful enough to drain Mordru, a powerful multiversal Lord of Chaos (comparable to Nabu, the Lord of Order in Dr. Like I said, I think a lot of people make assumptions about the Nelson Dr. Before Spectre beat him? Even before the plot device, it was more of a stalemate. I think he'd be found wanting. I've never heard anyone use that as an argument to imply a certain level of power for him. Had been for at least 3-4 issues. Doctor Fate was far older than he appeared. He isn't a merged Fate and has never had access to more power than that which Linda did in this issue. DS was well in control and Fate pulled out a plot win by making DS feel mercy (retconed to later not be DS). Of course, it isn't a particularly good showcase of Darkseid's power either, and with it being retconned to Desaad anyway, it loses a lot of its relevance. It was only by doing so that he was able to defeat two gods of equal power to him. He may not win, but given what I've seen when both went up against Spectre, clearly Nabu gave him a much harder time then Darkseid did. I already pointed out that the fever had been with him for sometime. He shoots and misses. Their peak feats solo match those of Inza, and of Hector. @Freefa11: Didn't realize it was Nelson,thought it was just Fate. So anyone arguing the Fates legitimately lost, are basically arguing that Dr. Do I think Spectre's inability to destroy DS has any bearing on this match ? To get the real answer to the question @AtPhantom would be the one to ask. The page before the first scan as i recall she actually hit him from behind with a full blast and it did nothing. Also when the presence was "missing" Spectre was being coy around DS because he feared what he might do if he was aware that the highest power was nowhere to be found. Darkseid was formerly known as Uxas, … Random encounter, no knowledge, no outside help. When Superman came to his friend to ask for his help, Fate refused, stating that he had become weary of the never-ending battle. =), just ask beatbox, he was the one owning this thread anyway. So basically, before the retcon, we had a PIS low-showing for Darkseid, and after the retcon, we have a PIS high-showing for Desaad. I don't really see the relevance, to be honest. 4) The male Dr. Fate in sort of the same way that Hal Jordan is viewed as being the quintessential Green Lantern (I'm assuming that's the only reason the OP chose him for this battle, because I really can't see the sense of deliberately choosing a weak version of a character to fight someone like Darkseid). Bonus round 1: Pre-crisis, bloodlusted AM at his max should take it. In the same issue he manhandled Nabu (who at the time was in the original Kent Nelson's body and called himself Kent, not really a major feat Nabu in a mortal host was always pretty limited). During the Straus Fate run. Darkseid already fought not one but two Fates in Fate's own book and won (no, I don't count them stunning him with the power of love as a win). Again, not saying she is "winning" because of this, but he certainly isn't either. She shoots and misses. The only reason they feign a surrender is because he shows them an essentially endless army of parademons, and points out that he can just keep sending wave after wave of them at the Fates until they are just overwhelmed. As has been shown Odin is in another league above darkseid and Fate is around equal to strange. There are Two versions of Dr fate with the name Kent Nelson. Thanos vs Darkseid- Darkseid wins unless Thanos has the IG. These two titans of DC UNIVERSE, were being brainwashed by Darkseid, to attack Dr Fate. You don't have the scan here, but on the next page, Linda shatters the hand. So really, people should just be bringing up actual feats for Kent Nelson and Darkseid, not a battle that didn't involve either character. They have been the result of the alterations that the entity Nabu has done on the bodies of the hosts who have worn the helmet. Strange Vs. Darkseid. Strange, for example, I'd think he could just teleport away or open a portal home or something (or just turn invisible or intangible). They were not at Desaad's mercy, they were pretty much at the mercy of what appeared to be an endless army of Parademons (although I'm not entirely certain why they couldn't try to escape via teleportation, flight, invisibility, etc). Linda isn't shot at all. Fate - Respect thread. Fate shoots an energy blast across the screen at an angle of aproximately 30 degrees downward that does six damage on contact. Didn't Nabu go the distance for a while with Spectre? Darkseid gets owned by the all-father who then proceeds to destroy Strange with the help of fate. The book is in NM- 9.2 condition. ... 25 Darkseid (DC) Jack Kirby invented the evil tyrant Darkseid nearly 50 years ago, and the villain still remains a fan-favorite today. Exactly which scan shows Desaad clearly beating them? I want more. Going by what you're saying, it seems like this would only be true of the Silver Age Nelson, and the post-crisis incarnation is actually much more puny than most people probably think. Normally Himon and Metron would be fairly reliable testimony, but in this case, they are just wrong. Provide scans, or links to WoG for every claim you make. Fate That's right Desaad was the doppelganger. DS was about to deliver the finishing blow when Linda Attacked, and his fever began to develop from a parrademon's bite. It can be reached by anyone with knowledge of the Tower and s much larger on the inside. Fate could give Darkseid a rough time here. Though it depends on which Fate we're talking. Superman. He defeated the demon Karkull a century before the age of Superman. Its kinda like putting Dr Strange across from certain enemies. The text also explicitly states that she is only at half power, and that Erik is weak with fever. Injustice™ 2https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-gb/tid=CUSA05459_00 Press J to jump to the feed. But as they started to charge Fate, Fate says “Forgive Me, For What I Must Do My Friends. Often they have to build the spell to build up the power. Erik gets shot once, but that just gets him to Apokolips, and he was severely ill anyway. Now DS (except Pre COIE) Vs Classic Fate that would be a completely different story. Fate is a playable character and fallen Superhero from Injustice 2. Scan 3: Text states that Darkseid is "stunned" and "shaken," and views her as a threat. Desaad is not a powerful character, and unless Dr. Yes Dr Fate has super strength, flight invulnerability etc. Otherwise, he only attacked once, but missed, while Darkseid himself was shot twice, but didn't seem all that hurt. Who will win in a fight between Darkseid (New 52) and Doctor Fate? Fate who are wise and just, this version is bitter, cynical and has utterly lost faith in humanity and the other heroes, as have the Lords of Fate. He does not attack them in any way after that. @Freefa11: So that means Darkseid wins,and I'm certain Mantis has been able to defeat Fate as well. In comics, a doppleganger (Desaad) of Darkseid has already defeated not … I think I can call myself an authority. Superman went off to fight the demon and was given a magic charm by Inza, who lamented that although she was willi… Did not always seem to play out that way in practice though. Fate. He knows the world will end—either by Brainiac’s hand, or in a war between Batman and Superman. What you are saying here looks like there is little evidence to back up those ideas, or maybe they've got him mixed up with a different Dr. Fate is generally a symbiosis between Nabu and the host, but at times Nabu has both overridden the host and been subdued and shut down by him. Some of those. KMC Forums > Comic Book Forums > Comic Book 'Versus' Forum > Dr. Citizenbane should know this as well, since I've seen him bring it up before. Based on how comics tend to go, Darkseid. Who will win in a fight between Darkseid (New 52) and Doctor Fate? I can't really speak to the accuracy of the comparison. Also, I know Nabu is the source of Fate's power, but more or less the same character when the helmet is on someone, it's Nabu controlling the host to a degree. Fate and Spectre were able to stop the universe from being destroyed. Fate is Kent Nelson. Fate in general is much weaker than I've been lead to believe, Desaad overpowering a Fate (which didn't actually happen here, but I'm just stating hypothetically) would be PIS. I still say his ability to go intangible would give him time to develop an attack. During the Straus Fate run. This version of Fate is also possessed by the essence of Nabu in the helmet whenever he dons it. To face an alliance between a Lord of chaos Vaneamon and a Lord of Order Ynar Classic Fate merged with his host's wife Inza. Linda attacks again and knocks him off a ledge. 2) The scans of Darkseid addressing the Lords of Chaos and Order are from the same story arc as the Fates, so if you're going to insist it was Desaad who fought the Dr's, then it was also Desaad who spoke on equal terms with the Lords of C&O, not Darkseid. He is shot 3 times. He was ten when his father found Nabu's tomb in the early 1920's. After that his appearances are limited ( to my knowledge) to Reign in Hell (where he really only had two fights of substance) and in Justice Society of America from issue 30, in which he only really played a part in few arks. The only places he could work vast magic in fact. Fate was severely ill and dying of fever. Anti Monitor Vs Eternity. Hmmm, I think if it's Classic SA Fate, he can take it or perhaps pure Nabu since he did hold his own for a little while at least vs. Spectre can take Darkseid. The closest he comes is summoning a stone hand to grasp her, which she destroys almost immediately. He may not use them regularly enough to be considered in-character but he does have them. Erik wasn't Dying ( he lived for quite some time afterward, and was rebirthed into a new magical life form to save humanity at the end of the Straus Run), Linda was no less a neophyte than Kent V has been in every showing he's had. It didn't help Secret. When Karkull returned, Fate realized that no matter how hard he tried, evil would never give up, and he abandoned the fight. If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. 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