Technically they are on a "Dangerous Breed" list along with pit bulls and Rottweilers. My dog just kept running for the ball and never looked back. Quite simply—it’s in their genetics! Not everybody can control a nervous-aggressive German shepherd for example. I’ve had doberman, Rottweiler and now pit bull. In my experience, she actually bonded with me and could not be bothered with my kids. Gimme a break. These are some of the physical traits that help them excel in the role of personal protection. During my time offering consulting services to Doberman owners, I have come across a few dogs that appear to have a bit of a mean streak in them. I update this list frequently as I find new products that are both reasonably priced and work well for Dobermans specifically. My catahoula mix had the most terrifying bark I've ever Heard, and would go nuts when someone approached the house. I've been around small flat-faced dogs (Pekingese and Boston terriers) my whole life and, though I love those breeds, I want to move onto big, scary looking dogs. Are male or female Dobermans more aggressive? For the dogs with the right mind, protection starts out as a game, teaching them all the moves and when it becomes more serious, they are extremely confident that they will win. I believe dogs, all dogs, are really special beings and if they are made to become “bad” – it is the fault people. In countless of situations I’d be met by the owner of the Pitt Bull and neighbors and they always said the same thing. However early socialization can prevent this. Oh, when she was a puppy she loved running around and chasing my boys and playing, but as she got older she preferred me (female) and began to ignore all children and young people. That’s just one department in the nation. Good luck to you no matter what you decide! These people all believe that this is a dangerous breed. Same if you had a bitch. Good luck to you! This is enough pressure to break bones in the right circumstances, or snap a tennis ball in half with one bite. The pool guy will be afraid to step in your backyard just by seeing your dog staring at him. A dog that puts on a show of lunging and snarling may seem like a better choice for a deterrent but he's actually more like a liability and will have to be contained and can't go to many places. Interesting thought John! My 1 yr old female charges the fence while other pet owners are walking their leashed dogs. BuzzFeed Staff. (Or pee on their shoes. There are a lot of really great things in the works here at Doberman Planet. And that smooth collie is beautiful!! While Doberman Pinschers certainly have the physical abilities to be quite dangerous animals, the modern-day Doberman is generally well suited for a companionship role and is not likely to be overly aggressive. They are most likely to bite a perceived human threat to their owner or family. Some stuff I read made it sound like there were a lot of things that would put Dobermans on edge, especially too much noise and activity. Are Dobermans aggressive towards strangers? My best friend (don’t tell my wife) was an 11 yr old female Dobie named Bree that went with me everywhere, and moved all over the US with me (Retired military). They're the most vicious dog breed ever to walk the Earth. It’s been 3 years and that angry, serious, distrusting boy is now like a loving puppy. I also don't want a dog that's bad with kids, because I'm an aunt and it's possible I could have children of my own within the time span I'd have the Doberman. What a jerk! A good breeder will not allow aggression to appear in their line. Only bad owners. The reality is that these are wonderful family dogs, each with their own personality, but none of them “evil” at heart. Our dogs produce beautiful show quality offspring & excellent family companions with impeccable 100% European breeding coming from a long line of Multi International Champions. Not aggressive. So they've been bred to have a natural tendency to be wary and suspicious of strangers. This wasn’t always the case though. That statistics table needs some context regarding the number of dogs that there are in the area statistically studied compared to the number of incidents. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Find out in my article Do Dobermans Turn on Their Owners? Dobermans aren’t mean, but their owners can be. A steady big dog, especially if it's dark in color, is a huge deterrent just by existing. I don't plan to get the first one I find, nor do I expect a perfect dog. I wouldn't suggest getting a Doberman unless you're very comfortable and confident in your training skills. I believe general personality traits can be said about a breed, but I refuse to believe a well-trained, responsibly-owned, healthy dog can't adapt to different situations and households. Asking if they’re mean is asking about their general state of mind and it’s not a straightforward answer. My nieces are more than old enough (8 and 10) to know how treat animals, and they do. Read my article all about the differences between the European and American Doberman here. Unfortunately, many people will see a large, impressive, noble-looking dog sticking close to their owner’s side and will assume that they must be aggressive or just mean. With my wife getting her MALE Golden Retriever puppy, would it be okay for me to get my Dobie puppy now/wait a little while, or something else? With years of experience and involvement in the Doberman community, I feel I can answer that question with confidence. They will generally only become aggressive while attempting to protect themselves or their owners from a perceived threat. Dobermans have an undeserved bad reputation because of their service to the police and … In my opinion, they are by far one of the most satisfying but difficult breeds to own. Now it’s the pitbull time. Rotts tend to come right up and nudge you for butt scratches. For example, # of deaths caused by Pit Bulls per 1000 Pit Bulls. Because Dobermann had to perform the dangerous task of collecting taxes, which at that time could be fairly risky, he started to crossbreed different types of dogs in order to develop a guardian dog for his … That was why god invented paper towels. When I walk my boy, and my mom is with me and a loose dog comes charging out she will shriek sending my boy into protection mode, luckily we have worked on training and he is very much able to pull his focus back. My landlady/neighbor is terrified and hates my dog because she was chased by a German shepherd when younger. They will stick close by your side and keep you safe at all costs. She passed away 11 months ago and I was so completely devastated, even today I thinking about the amount of love I’m gonna put into my next dog and I instantly feel un-loyal to Bree. Take a look at the table below. by Hilary Mitchell. Is there data that adjusts the number of deaths caused by each breed based on the corresponding breed population size? but I refuse to believe a well-trained, responsibly-owned, healthy dog can't adapt to different situations and households. One of the common reasons people see Dobermans as ferocious is because of their bite. If she barks and charges, provide immediate correction. At 1-year-old though, this type of behavior is pretty common. Or tossing the ball endlessly for him. Doberman pinschers are powerful, energetic dogs that need plenty of exercise. In World War 2, Dobermans were used extensively by the United States Marine Corps during the various battles for control of the pacific. At least it doesn’t appear that way. Especially when we often spend the evenings sitting on the couch with our dogs stretched out over our laps. Because dogs are distinct individuals, it's difficult to ascribe a specific trait common to all members of a breed. Any overly aggressive behavior from a Doberman is likely the result of a severe lack of socialization or mistreatment from their owner. I know adopted adult dogs tend to have their quirks and everything, I know I won't get a perfect dog. They are lightning fast when it comes to training, and extremely biddable. While every dog has its own personality, female Dobermans have a reputation for displaying more aggression than their male counterparts. I believe my Dobie of 11 yrs was more of a European Dobie according to your videos, specifics, and appearance but she was our only dog. Dobermans are naturally protective, its not something that needs to be trained into the dog, per say, unless you want to compete in Schutzhund/IPO, but that is a WHOLE another level of protection and not every dog is made for it. It is estimated that 3.6 million pit bull type dogs are in the U.S. Doberman At a glance I suggest you pick one. It is almost always related to their upbringing. While I’m sure she’d try to defend me (or herself) if threatened, her goal around most people is to give them kisses. I was looking for another female. It was terrifying to say the least. Some dogs are just bad. Dobermans are loving animals, yet they do have the physical ability to be dangerous if they need to be (they’re large, strong, and have a powerful bite). In super advanced old age, like 14 on...she would on rare instances growl at new humans, and then, would retreat away. And I don't have the skill, time, or patience to raise a puppy, get it through the teething stage, get it housebroken, train it, socialize it, etc. nothing. I do believe, as John states, it really is all about how any dog is raised. John, my wife just reserved a 6 wk old Golden Retriever (will get it 7 Dec 2019 @8wks). I’m hoping she eventually grows out of the second goal. Start by trying to prevent your dog from getting near the fence by erecting a barrier of some type to keep her set back from the fence. Breeders are now breeding these dogs for companionship rolls much more often than guard duty rolls. I also think that most dogs act depending on how they are raised and trained. Do Dobermans attack their owners? The tug of war began. When she passed, I decided to get a rescue Doberman. I respected his experience and began earning his trust and respect. They have been said to be aggressive and could turn any time on their owners, causing a potentially dangerous situation. My dog has a Dobbie BFF. In fact, they’re a fairly recent creation and only came to be a little over a hundred years ago. Right: and if you wanted to purchase a dog, from a breeder who breeds for temperament, you can get a puppy, that raised properly, will be a great dog to own. These dogs were bred to be protectors, that means they protect. Sometimes I think its their birth order and position in the pack. No dog breed is … But I see what you’re saying… if there are double of breed #1 out there but these stats show the same bite-related deaths as breed #2, then you could actually conclude that breed #1 is half as likely to cause a death from a bite. Focus on maintaining consistent correction for one or two weeks, then try purposely provoking her by walking by the fence yourself. The puppy was fine and the doberman seemed to feel ok after he checked her out but the difference in the 2 dogs reaction was a perfect example of their contrast in sensitivity. There's always people willing to adopt baby animals because they're cute. Dangerous Doberman. Your email address will not be published. I never once responded to a Doberman attack. The doberman immediately stopped and turned around and started trembling and tiptoeing over to the crowd around the pup. 2. I said “drop it”……. Well, you really shouldn’t be. She worked with a retired surgeon that loves Dobermans and loves flying his plane and he brought my boy back up to me. In fact, many people have told me they thought these dogs were just plain mean. Also as dog owner and trainer I can tell you that owning a Pit Bull is not worth the risk. He tested me. So many adult dogs need homes. she had a bunch of love to give and I never had a problem with her when walking her. I didn’t notice that in the companion article–but i may have missed it. It’s a common misconception that Doberman Pinschers are prone to turning on their owners. I feel so safe walking her because she looks so intimidating (when she's just a typical harmless, goofy husky). Dobermans do have a prey drive, mine HATES wild animals. I said “leave it”……nothing. I've made it my mission to learn everything I can about this amazing breed of dog and help other owners in the process. But once you get down to the real root cause as to why they’re acting out and destroying things, trying to bite someone that comes to the door, or struggling from other behavioral issues, it’s not because they are mean. 227. Exercise will vary, but I generally don't consider them as high energy as GSD's or Huskies. This means that their teeth come together in a fairly precise, interlaced way (like interlacing your fingers) as they bite down. That's a big thing that draws me to them. When a bite from a K9 is on the job doing what they were trained to do should get count on it own and not included when the family pet bites someone. The latter goes for all dogs though. I said “Good boy!” To this day, he will let go of, and often times bring me, anything I tell him to drop. They're cute to look at, but they're more than a handful of trouble. If a dog, any dog, isn’t socialized enough at a young age or lacks positive human interaction, it means that the dog will feel fear a lot more often. You're not going to a trained (meaning basic obidence) adult Doberman just anywhere, a breeder is your best bet when it comes to finding that type of match, and I'm talking about a retired show dog...or a dog that for one reason or another was a wash in the show ring. My name is John Walter and I absolutely love Dobermans. Did you know? This subreddit is a great starting point for a lot of information, but you should always verify and expand upon what you've read before putting it to use in your daily life. I suggest you do more research, and please check out the Doberman forum, where you will be able to interact with some of the nations top breeders, and Doberman enthusiasts. I think Labrador Retrievers have the highest population size and might therefore drop down the list when graphed this way, and so on. If she was annoyed or bothered, she'd retreat away from them. I don't have a dog on the dangerous dog breeds list, but I know a good bit about it. I’ve seen some pretty vicious chihuahuas. They will generally only act out to protect themselves or their owners from a perceived danger. You’re right that it doesn’t account for the total number of dogs of each breed present in the U.S. so the stats are not adjusted for this. But are pit bulls, rottweilers, Dobermans, and other dogs that are quite formidable so dangerous? One time particular time, he grabbed my dish towel. Dobermans are loving animals, yet they do have the physical ability to be dangerous if they need to be (they're large, strong, and have a powerful bite). I miss her. Dobermans are bred to protect so you can have a protector AND a companion. But adult animals at rescues and shelters, which are the first places I'd look, are the last to go, if they go at all. I'll take an adult I have to work with over a puppy. As for the rest of the info about the breed, thank you. She was great with us, but hesitant with people for a few minutes but then loved on them like a family member. But she came into my life as a 5 month old puppy and I never looked back. But given their speed, tensile steel like strength, and suspicious assertive nature, a threat can end in death. The vet said she’d never met such a sweet, well tempered dog.). Dogs 101: Doberman Pinscher Most Popular Dog Breeds Dobie – Animal Facts Intelligent, alert, and tenaciously loyal companions, the Doberman Pinscher is driven, strong, and sometimes stubborn. 1. During the late 1800s, Karl Friedrich Louis Dobermann lived in Apolda, Germany. Required fields are marked *. But they’re just great loyal protectors and are generally only dangerous to those threatening the ones they are close to. Dangerous Drugs The most common human medications to cause poisoning in dogs include: The nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) are … In the Battle of Guam, 25 Dobermans died serving their country in the battle against the Japanese. I love Dobermans. Not all dogs are suited for everybody. Although Dobermans have impressive abilities, they’re not likely to use them unless they’re threatened. But no, I haven’t seen any yet! But she never bit and was really affectionate (unusual for that breed). But is it deserved? Seems that I live in an area of fairly competent dog owners. Some say their brains grow too big for their skull size causing this viciousness. They get their reputation because they can become ferocious if their owners are threatened, but honestly, isn’t that a good quality? Have I scared you yet? I'd feel safer by myself if I have a dog that at least looks like he'd attack bad guys. He was using everything to pull. They are not random biters. She is on cloud 9 with sexual excitement. Here is an example of Dobbie sensitivity. Dobermans can be dangerous, but so can Chihuahuas and poodles. Lv 5. I figured I'd have to find a breeder, but I still want to check shelters and rescues just in case. I see that German Shepherds say they only have 20 bites per the CDC. Adapted well into the multiple houses she lived in. Therefore this breed is not very easy to train. My experience with the breed is they require a firm and consistent handler, you cannot be weak. That’s pretty far down the list. Even the Labrador retriever killed more people during that period that Doberman’s did. They still retain their natural protective instincts and will certainly take action if necessary, yet they are very kind, loving, and predictable. Louis set out experimenting by selectively breeding dogs and after many generations, he ended up with the Doberman Pinscher—the perfect protector. I said nothing and maintained constant pulling pressure toward me. They're the most vicious dog breed ever to walk the Earth. The average Joe who's up to no good can't tell if a calm dog is protection trained or not and will not take a chance. My doberman is the sweetest girl ever. It can also contribute to mold and bacterial growth in the food and make your dog sick. Rendered fat can make this situation significantly worse. I have a Yorkie and old mini pin that is barking as well and that seems to work her up in a frenzied mess. It’s not fair to the dog. Are Dobermans aggressive towards other dogs? He did not pass his “aggression test” at the shelter (that’s another topic) and they planned to euthanize him. Though with early socialization, you can certainly have a friendly dog of either breed. Both times by dobermans. If a Dobermann or German Shepherd is a K9 and bites someone while working that bite is simple reported as a bite to CDC. No, Dobermans are not mean, yes they have the ability to be dangerous (but rarely are), and they are generally never aggressive without the need to protect either themselves or their owners. Getting a Dobie pup of the same-sex might be an issue when they hit puberty but every dog is different and almost any situation can work, these are just my recommendations if you want the highest probability of the two dogs getting along. I've been working with Dobermans exclusively for over 6 years and there's no other breed I'd rather work with. In addition to the physical traits listed above, there are also many typical temperament traits that help to make the Doberman a great guard dog. Been owner of doberman in the passed, think best dog ever but don’t think that these statistics are good to be considered. In fact, that's the normal state for a protection trained dog - unless they are in a situation that calls for force, they are quietly, calmly watching. So, someone once came up with a special category of dogs and called them “fighting dogs”, implying that all breeds that are on this list are born killers, which by definition cannot be affectionate pets. Go pick out a large mixed dog at a shelter or rescue, you'll get your intimidation, while still having a manageable dog. But to be honest, I think it would be fine to get a Dobie pup who is a similar age to the Golden Retriever if they were of the opposite sex. I actually see a fair number of Dobes at the dog park we go to, and all seem to be pretty good dogs; then again, I don't have a lot of issues with other dogs in general. Non-aggressive breeds, besides lacking the Doberman’s aggression, lack the Doberman’s sturdy temperament and ability to deal with stress. He worked at least two jobs at that time. Once I was walking to the store, and a leashed Doberman lashed out and nipped me. It might be a combination of the following factors or even something entirely different as well. You’re right on with the statistics. I knew he had heart. A bit deceiving if you ask me. Perro Doberman Pinscher I Love Dogs Cute Dogs Black And Tan Terrier Doberman Love Doberman Breed Doberman Funny Dangerous Dogs Aggressive Dog. In addition to the strength of their bite, Dobermans also have what’s called a “scissor” bite. I'm a young woman who's off alone at times. Dobermans can be dangerous if not properly trained and socialized; therefore, owning a Doberman comes with great responsibility and it is not to be taken lightly. Dobermans can be dangerous, but so can Chihuahuas and poodles. I've been bitten, unprovoked, twice in my life. If children cannot handle petting and handling any dog in a respective manner, they stand a chance to get bit, this applies to ANY AND ALL BREEDS of dogs. Subscribe to my e-mail list so you’ll be notified when these big changes come! I have read about the same sex thing, but I don't plan on having more than one dog, so no worries there. This is far from reality. So I'm hoping if I got an adult Doberman, I could earn his respect and love so he'd consider me his family, and protect me by default (hopefully like my sister's chihuahua, only more effectively. A well-socialized Doberman is an extremely loving and gentle dog and they’re even often used as service dogs due to their intelligence, trainability, and kind nature. About Doberman Planet. She wasn't a great trainer. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts Cookies help us deliver our Services. These physical traits make the Doberman have a distinct look that often strikes fear into people who aren’t familiar with the breed. So I pulled. The Doberman is a fairly new dog breed. She was ~2, had been abused, had no training, and was terrible to walk on a leash. What were the details of the study? Dobermans, when not trained properly, can be really scary and out of control. Everyone knows that dobermans are scary … I've been working with Dobermans exclusively for over 6 years and there's no other breed I'd rather work with. We bonded immediately and I knew he was happy but we had some issues to work through. Dobermans can be aggressive towards other dogs, especially while on a leash. Here are 58 facts to help better inform you about this majestic breed. There's variation in Doberman temperaments - some skittish, some rock solid and everything in between. But they’re just great loyal protectors and are generally only dangerous to those threatening the ones they are close to. The European Doberman is a much closer relation to Louis Dobermann’s original dog than the American variant. Our Doberman Cooper was still a puppy when he first demonstrated his talent for howling. Your companion dog (of most breeds) will most likely bark at 'intruders' but you don't want it to do any more than that. Source(s): https://shrinkurl.im/a0Urk. Also, you’ll want to stay on top of the other dogs too—it’ll be hard to expect her to stop barking and charging the fence when other dogs are barking. My boyfriend's family has a husky girl and I've just fallen in love with bigger dogs since I met her. According to a thirteen-year study which looked at the different breeds of dogs involved in fatal dog attacks, the Doberman ranked 11th. The origins of this dog breed are quite recent, as the first Doberman was bred in Germany in 1890. This rapid biting movement inflicts a significant amount of damage in a very short period of time. The modern-day Doberman, is a far cry from the “Devil Dogs” of the past, however. It was never a breed I even considered as a 'choice'. As far as I can tell, the stats for the total number of each breed of dog doesn’t exist. They are not for 'average' owners. Crazy smart and funny (best 11 yrs of my life). Brain vs. Skull Size Myth. I'm hoping they're not too easily upset by normal household things, like...I don't know, vacuums? The old stereotype of the Doberman as an agressive and dangerous dog is dying as the modern-day Doberman is certainly far more family-oriented than an aggressive “junkyard dog”. 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